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- The Venn name came from French Fishermen that fished and traded around the East coast of Ireland. Lena is a descendant of one of these fishermen - Marie Clothier 24 Nov 2004
1883 Births Registered in the District of Fethard No 2 in the Union of New Ross in the County of Wexford.
No. 138.
Date and Place of Birth - 1883 Second November, Duncannon.
Name (if any) - Helena, Sex - F.
Name and Surname and Dwelling Place of Father - James Venn, Duncannon.
Name and Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother - Margaret Venn formerly Brown.
Rank or Profession of Father - Fisherman.
Signature, Qualification, and Residence of Informant - James his x mark Venn, Father, Duncannon.
When Registered - First January 1884.
Signature of Registrar - Thomas De Renzy.
Image 1BirthCerts>Venn downloaded but not assigned a Source No. (B1883VennHelenaSCFull.pdf)
NOTE - Birth cert has DOB as 2 Nov 1883, registered on 1 Jan 1884. 1939 Eng & Wales Reg has DOB as 13 Oct 1883 and death cert has DOB as 16 Oct 1883. I have altered my record from the 16 Oct to the Birth cert date 2 Nov, as it is the earliest and possibly the most accurate, BUT, as it wasn't registered until 2 months after the birth could be inaccurate and maybe a baptism date, id available, would be able to show a more accurate DOB. - Matthew Falvey 3 Dec 2025
1901 Census of Ireland
5 Quay Parade, Waterford Town, Co Waterford, Ireland
Mathew J Langley, Head of Family, Church of Ireland, Read & Write, 30, M, No Occupation, Married, born Co Tipperary.
Alice Langley, Wife, Church of Ireland, Read & Write, 25, F, - , Married, born Co Tipperary.
Mathew J Langley, Son, Church of Ireland, Cannot Read, 3, M, - , Not Married, born City of Waterford.
Adilade E Langley, Daughter, Church of Ireland, Cannot Read, 6 Months, M, - , Not Married, born City of Waterford.
Helena Venn, Servant, Roman Catholic, Read & Write, 17, F, Domestic Servant, Not Married, born City of Waterford.
William Clothier - Helena Venn marriage record in LDS marriage index film. Q 30 Jun 1901 Vol 4 Page 367
New Ross.
Certified copy of entry in the Marriage Register Book.
1901 Marriage solemnised at the Catholic church Duncannon in the Registrars district of Fethard No 2, in the Superintendent Registrar's district of New Ross in the County of Wexford Ireland. No. 130
When married - 11th day of April 1901.
Name and Surname - William Clothier, Age - Full, Condition - Bachelor, Rank or Profession - Soldier, Residence at the time of marriage - Duncannon Co Wexford, Father's Name and Surname - Henry Clothier, Rank or Profession of Father - Watchmaker.
Name and Surname - Helena Venn, Age - Full, Condition - Spinster, Rank or Profession - Servant, Residence at the time of marriage - Duncannon Co Wexford, Father's Name and Surname - James Venn, Rank or Profession of Father - Sailor.
Witnesses: James Callaghan & Mary Ann Venn. Mary Ann VENN
Helena Clothier in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Helena Clothier
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1883
Residence Date: 1939
Address: 12 Springfield Rd
Residence Place: New Windsor, Berkshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 9
Schedule Number: 355
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: Dtfi
Borough: New Windsor
Registration district: 125 2
Inferred Spouse: William Clothier
Household Members Age
William Clothier 59
Helena Clothier 56
Elizabeth Nye 28
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
Image CensusEngland>Barry downloaded but not assigned a Source No.
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Ted said my Grandmother lived in India for 11 years when Grandpa was in the Army. Some of the children were born in India. My Mother was the eldest and has always talked about living in India. She had to help with the children and went to school there. Also picked up some of the language. Maybe that is where you came to a blank after Grandfather left Ireland. - Helena Kent 12 Jan 2005
Edward J. Nye in the Berkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1965
Name: Edward J. Nye
Residence Date: 1957
Street Address: 12 Springfield Road
Residence Place: Berkshire, England
Parliamentary Division: Windsor
1727 Clothier, William H
1728 Clothier, Elle
1729 Nye Edward J
Edward J. Nye in the Berkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1965
Name: Edward J. Nye
Residence Date: 1958
Street Address: 12 Springfield Road
Residence Place: Berkshire, England
Parliamentary Division: Windsor
1748 Clothier, William H
1749 Clothier, Elle
1750 Nye Edward J
Edward J. Nye in the Berkshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1840-1965
Name: Edward J. Nye
Residence Date: 1959
Street Address: 12 Springfield Road
Residence Place: Berkshire, England
Parliamentary Division: Windsor
1734 Clothier, William H
1735 Clothier, Elle
1736 Nye Edward J
Gran (Hannah Felton), Mom (Eily Mulcahy) and all of us went to to visit his (William Clothier's) address as his wife (Lena Venn) was still living there, but even though it appears that she may have been in she did not answer the door, (Gran could see the curtains moving and someone peering out from behind them), this would have been in the late 60's.
A neighbour said that her daughter looks after her. - Matt Falvey.
Certified copy of an entry Death, entry no 11, Registration district - Windsor, Sub district Windsor in the county of Berkshire
Date and Place of Death, Sixth December 1969, 27 Burnetts Road Windsor;
Name and Surname - Ellen Clothier;
Sex - female;
Maiden surname of woman who has married - Venn
Date and Place of Birth, 16 October 1883. Duncannon, Eire.
Occupation and usual address - Widow of William Clothier, Factory Labourer (retired). 12 Springfield Road, New Windsor;
Cause of death - 1a. Cardiac failure b. Influenza Certified by A. M. Murray MRCS;
Name and surname of informant - Eileen Patricia Stephenson,
Qualification -Daughter; Usual address 27 Burnetts Road Windsor.12 Springfield Road, Windsor.;
Cause of death - 1a. Broncho pneumonia - certified by M.T.C. Mower MRCS;
Signature of Informant EP Stephenson
Date of Registration - Eighth December 1969
Signature of registar E.W. Cunningham [2, 3]
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